2025 Presidential and Congressional Elections

Here we gooooooooooo….

With 27.38% of the vote in…

The big winner has been Parisi, who is outperforming the CADEM poll by more than 7%.

Given that Jara’s, Kaiser’s and Matthei’s results track with the polls, and Kast is overperforming by 4%, the only explanation I can come up with is that the Don’t Knows decided to throw their votes at Parisi because they couldn’t stomach the others.

More or less the expected result. That clown Parisi in third place instead of Matthei only shows how frivolous some of the electorate can be.

Chile is the only country I know of where a sizeable proportion of the voters want a Commie government. Fools.

Can you explain Parisi’s politics? Wikipedia says PDG is centre-right/right-wing populist but then I also occasionally hear that he flirts with left wing policies?

Guess you haven’t seen what’s going on in the center of the world financial universe (better known as NYC).

It is primarily the vote of the indoctrinated millennial and Z voters of the XX chromosome persuasion. It is a Western world phenomena and not exclusive to Chile even with its unique history of left and right.

Let them have a good taste, I say.

Wiki has been compromised by the woke left and sponsors.

The last Pres election had PDG elected to Congress and the most prominent ones ended aligning themselves with Frente Amplio/PPD/Socialists/Communists.

Personally, Parisi is a clown/scammer and is only in it for the money (Chile’s system of votes = money in the candidate’s pocket). He used the previous Pres run to finally pay off his pension obligation to his family so he could return to Chile from Miami without being detained.

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https://youtu.be/gBvrIKQLEZQ

His previous electoral attempt was torpedoed by various political scandals, and this is a guy who lived in the US because he would have gone to jail in Chile for non-payment of Child Support.

He was also fired from two US colleges for acoso sexual.

He’s an unprincipled demagogue, telling the clueless what they want to hear, and just like Boric when he was opposition, is great at criticizing everyone else.

His resurgence from a debacle only four years ago only shows how forgetful some voters can be.

Thanks, @eeuunikkeiexpat and @feargle.

So, what’s his constituency? Mainly left? Mainly right? All comers?

The credulous and those Chileans who are secret admirers of viveza criolla.

Edit: the now-obligatory vote by those who would have abstained otherwise also may represent an (understandable) rejection of traditional politicians, it could be a called a protest vote

Political institutions have always been poorly-regarded in the opinion polls, and for good reasons.

But a chanta like Parisi?:face_vomiting:

Turning to Congress, with all the votes basically counted now, I see that Chile Grande y Unido and Cambio por Chile have together won 76 seats which is two short of the 78 required for a majority, so they will need Party of the People to join them in order to get anything done.

Given Parisi’s early noises, and how he’s been described to me earlier in this thread, I would assume that he will stay out of government and leverage the party’s position with supply and confidence to extract maximum value for himself?

Furthermore, Chile Grande y Unido and Cambio por Chile are left with 25 seats in the 50 seat Senate, and based on what ChatGPT has told me, there are no tie breaking votes. If there’s a tie, the bill is rejected. So they would need to be courting independent senators whom I believe are probably leftists?

Jara’s Strategic Advisor was forced to resign, all because of a Z!

https://cooperativa.cl/noticias/pais/politica/presidenciales/jara-pidio-la-renuncia-a-su-asesor-estrategico-tras-polemicos-dichos/2025-11-20/214629.html

That gave me a good chuckle. :laughing:

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I aim to entertain :joy: . I thought it was funny too. Jara must be so mad at her ex advisor!!

The first CADEM poll for the segunda vuelta is in and…

Assuming an even split of the Don’t Knows, etc. Kast would get 56% to Jara’s 44%. Jara will have to convince 80% of the Don’t Knows to back her to win. If Kast picks up 70% of the Don’t Knows, he will end up with 60% of the haul.

And the so-called Christian Democrats, who allied with the definitely anti-Christian Communist party to support Jara, are apparently now having second thoughts.

No wonder they’re a party in decline, but as Marx (Groucho, that is - not Karl) said:

que la colectividad separará aguas con el sector en caso de que la abanderada de Unidad por Chile, Jeannette Jara, sea derrotada en el balotaje de este 14 de diciembre.

En caso??

Hahaahahaha. You have to admire leftist levels of delusion.

What surprises me is how alone Jara appears. And, if she is seen with other people, they look like they’re at a funeral.

Ooooof…..

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The only hope for Jara is to remember the 2021 election.

In the first round, Kast got the % of votes the polls predicted.

An analysis of who voted for who, simply by assuming more right leaning candidates would vote for Kast, suggested a very tight race in the second round as did the polls some slightly in favour of Kast and some slightly in favour of Boric later on. But then Boric won by an unexpectedly large margin as Kast did worse than the polls.

Might that happen again?

However, if the reason people broke Boric was become Kast was considered more extreme in the political environment of that time, that doesn’t hold any more, because the anti-extreme vote would also be anti-Jara vote. I think we might see a fair amount of don’t knows going for a null vote this time.

Also, if there is a last minute anti-Kast swing like last time, or some systematic error in polling to his detriment, he does have a big lead. The same underperformance vs the polls is not enough to make up the gap.

The polls can easily be wrong by a margin of 5 or maybe 10 percentage points, but not 15. You just don’t see that. So Jara has to somehow bring the polls closer before the election to have a chance.

I’d say Kast has an 80% chance.